Joe Stanganelli

Curbing Human Trafficking with Analytics

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Broadway0474
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Re: Great use for Analytics
Broadway0474   7/25/2016 8:09:06 PM
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@Seth, blurry lines, slippery slope --- however you want to describe it, excuses are not to be made in our day and age. Sure, extreme poverty exists all of the world, and I have never experienced it, so what do I know. But where do we draw the line for excuses ... child labor, selling children into prostitution, selling children into armies, terrorism ... ?

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SethBreedlove   7/24/2016 4:19:18 AM
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It's hard to be ethical if business survival depends on a murky decision.  I've never heard of any business closing shop because it's the right thing to do. 

Also, when it comes to things such as child labor the lines become blury when a country is so deep in poverty y where it's a choice of the child working in a factory or the family going hungry. 

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Jamescon   7/22/2016 8:40:57 AM
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@Seth. Yes, some small businesses just starting out look for suppliers that  are cheap and available, and don't always do due diligence. However, more than one big, established business might look the other way when these suppliers are available at low cost. They are just as guilty, maybe more so, considering that they have the resources to vet their suppliers.

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SethBreedlove   7/21/2016 8:59:16 PM
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I've glad to see this technology being used this way.  When small business start out they often just look for the least expensive vendor without anyway to verify their labor practices.  Some business have been put under when it was discovered who was making their products. 

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Lyndon_Henry   7/19/2016 8:49:18 PM
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Kq4ym writes

With cultural practices commonly different than ours it's not surprising that greed will enter the company's policies



 

Now what would be really interesting would be for someone to use analytics to cook up a database of all those companies whose policies are driven by greed ... 

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Jamescon   7/19/2016 11:47:13 AM
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@kq4ym. Yes, it's sad that 17,000 companies have been identified. Worse, think about how many of those companies are supplying products that you buy in the US. Still worse, think how many of those companies learned their business practices from the US, particularly from the historical titans of American business who thought nothing of treating workers as peons.

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kq4ym   7/19/2016 9:09:04 AM
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With cultural practices commonly different than ours it's not surprising that greed will enter the company's policies. But still it's remarkable that "We have already identified 17,000 just among the companies on our database alone." Quite a shock that so many companies are involved or at the least looking the other way.

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rbaz   7/18/2016 6:14:11 PM
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Thanks lyndon for the background information on the emerging of Dr Phil, but most of all highlighting the driving force and tenacity which interest is guarded and defended. Speak ethics but live economics.

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Lyndon_Henry   7/18/2016 5:59:30 PM
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Rbaz writes that

... here in California there was a rash of exposure from smartphone images of animal cruelty. California being such a powerful agricultural state, the emmidiate response to stem the problem was to pass a law criminalizing capturing images without prior consent.



 

Wow, that is eerily reminiscent of Texas's False Disparagement of Perishable Food Products Act of 1995, which forbids bad-mouthing beef and other Texas food products. This led to that famous 1998 lawsuit against Oprah Winfrey (for her remark on a 1996 show that learning about the possibility of getting Mad Cow Disease "has just stopped me cold from eating another burger!").

The outcome was that Oprah prevailed against the suit (because plaintiffs failed to prove she and another defendant "deliberately and knowingly" spread false information). incidentally, it was in the course of this trial that Oprah met Dr. Phil McGraw (he was a psychological consultant to her defense team for jury selection). This led to her inviting Dr. Phil on her show for many episodes, then encouraging him to start his own show ... and the rest is history. 

For more interesting stuff on this issue: Food libel laws

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rbaz
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rbaz   7/18/2016 5:36:48 PM
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Terry, here in California there was a rash of exposure from smartphone images of animal cruelty. California being such a powerful agricultural state, the emmidiate response to stem the problem was to pass a law criminalizing capturing images without prior consent. Ethics, PR, financial interest. Which of these drive the bus in the final analysis.

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