Pierre DeBois

How Facebook-FTC Settlement Reflects Privacy & Analytics Challenges

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ahdand
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Re: Poster-child for what not to do
ahdand   1/9/2012 4:43:48 AM
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Kicheko: I think its a very good suggestion because then you cannot blame anyone because its just an option. I think FB should consider this feature.

ahdand
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Re: Poster-child for what not to do
ahdand   1/9/2012 4:40:02 AM
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Yes true Joe but dont you think that the ones who start early are the ones who will continue to do so. Yes they willl make mistakes since they lack experiance but in the end by making mistakes only you learn.

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Re: Poster-child for what not to do
Pierre DeBois   1/4/2012 7:17:27 AM
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Seth, you are right, though I think what aggrevates that perspective is the number of changes. I have seen a few books on Facebook become outdated quickly because their publication was too out of sync from significant changes. I am not assigning blame, more of an observation that too many changes on a product that is beloved can damage branding to a degree.

I also think it's a byproduct of application developers - consumer do not expect rapid change, but that may be because they discover a product during its lifecycle. Not everyone is an early adopter, but a good marketing effort will shepard a product beyond its intial cache with early adopters.  Gaining widespread usage is a business goal, but it can damage a brand if not managed to serve the hard core "fans" that supported the product at the beginning.

SethBreedlove
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Re: Poster-child for what not to do
SethBreedlove   1/2/2012 4:41:37 PM
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I think one issue with Facebook, is that while it does have the ability to catergorize friends and select who can see which posts, it is not readily obvious how to do it. The how to needs to be more clear and upfront. 

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Re: Privacy and Transparency
SethBreedlove   1/2/2012 4:39:24 PM
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It's always important to search for one self on the internet.  I was shocked one time that I searched for myself and found a list of all the products I purchased on Amazon listed.  I called Amazon and they removed it immediatley, but claimed it was a 'service' so that my 'friends' could see what stuff I purchased incase they wanted to buy something.   Needless to say, I was upset. 

Even now, there are claims that Facebook is tracking which sites you visit even when you're logged out.  Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/26/facebook-logout-cookies-privacy-tracking_n_980838.html

Right now, with currently technology, could Facebook be totally private even if it wanted to?  With the ability of friends of friends to repost your messages, it seems the only person who can guarantee privacy is the consumer him or herself by not putting it out there in the first place.

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Re: Poster-child for what not to do
tinym   1/2/2012 3:20:06 PM
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I haven't read it yet but it's on my list. Reviews are mixed since Jarvis tends to come off as abrasive (at times) on twitter and his blog. I think a chunk of the negative reviews target him personally rather than the book content. Either way I still want to read it (along with a giant list of tech business books).

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Re: Poster-child for what not to do
Ariella   1/2/2012 11:04:46 AM
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@Pierre, Yes, whoever uses FB data would have to scrub out what is not really relevant. But I imagine that what we may consider oversharing could be valuable to some -- for example if it reveals a taste for certain types of food, drinks, or even music that could be marketed to particular individuals.

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Re: Poster-child for what not to do
Pierre DeBois   1/2/2012 5:23:55 AM
Ariella,

IMHO, it's a maturity level in the person.  The potential to overshare and cause a chain of response is what make social media fascinating and also a hindrince to some people - a flaw that can be hidden in personal circles gets magnified on a public stage. And social media is as public as it gets.

From a sentiment aspect issues that crop up because of oversharing and response can be a huge factor in how data will be processed.  Over time will have learn what can trigger worthwhile activity over weird tangent discussions.

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Re: Poster-child for what not to do
Pierre DeBois   1/2/2012 5:14:17 AM
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Hi Daniel,

Thanks for joining the discussion. Elaborate on more important and how it is irrelevant to age or gender.

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Re: Poster-child for what not to do
Pierre DeBois   1/2/2012 5:09:28 AM
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No, but I do recall seeing the book before. Have you read it or have picked up some reviews on it by chance?

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