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Building Online Opinion Panels Not for Faint-Hearted

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Shawn Hessinger
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Re: Understanding social context
Shawn Hessinger   2/15/2012 10:54:58 PM
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Hi Marshall,

Just some quick food for thought to add to this fascinating and lively discussion. I wonder if you're aware of the work of either Jure Leskovec, an assistant professor of computer science at Stanford University, whose research seems to have much to say about the degree to which behavior on the social Web mimics behavior in the real world, and Dmitri Williams, an associate professor at the University of Southern California Annenberg School for Communication & Journalism, whose research seems to indicate that behavior in virtual gaming environments does not differ from behavior in the real world. I would think the work of both these researchers might shed some light upon the question of the reliability of social media surveys.   

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Lyndon_Henry   2/15/2012 10:35:59 PM
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Webmetricsguru writes, " the online data isn't structured like a survey would, so people could be more self expressive."

Hmm ... how are these different? Surveys usually have highly controlled response choices, to facilitate fast and simple processing. Are you saying the questions and response choices would be different, or the online surveys tend to allow open-ended responses? Of course, it would seem that the latter would be rather hard to digest and tally, especially from a really large population of respondents. So we surveyors have traditionally avoided them like something very treacherous.


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webmetricsguru   2/15/2012 2:23:06 PM
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Well, I don't know (yet) if there's been enough or any research on the differences of how people behave offline (in general) vs. online, esp with a panel.

Do online opinions reflect a truer opinion than offline - it depends. For one thing, the online data isn't structured like a survey would, so people could be more self expressive.  On the other hand, what they means, and how to structure the information is much, much harder.

So ... it all depends (as it alwyas has)...

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Re: Anonymity - take with a grain of salt
webmetricsguru   2/15/2012 2:18:33 PM
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Agreed -and while there are issues with collecting online opinions, many think there is value in collecting the data, including me.  The main thing I think, though is that we need a lot more researhc and standards work being done before we can sell this stuff in (and that hasn't been done yet, for the most part).

 

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Anonymity - take with a grain of salt
Callmebob   2/15/2012 2:14:22 PM
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I used to moderate an online forum with anonymous users, the things people would write could be vile, racist, sexist, misogynist, cruel, and eternally damned if spoken in a confession booth. These people would never say or write these foul things about other people if their real identity was known. I think the same issue of honesty would apply for online panels with anonymous participants hiding behind their firewall, much different than in typical controlled surveys done in-person or a focus group.

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Lyndon_Henry   2/14/2012 11:33:18 PM
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In her first response to this thread, Beth asked what I thought was a very good question:

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I think one of the biggest challenges you bring to attention here is the need to determine how online panels reflect the offline opinions of target audiences, and vice versa. Do people react differently online then they do offline and, if so, what does that  mean for the opinions they express about their attitudes toward a particular product, brand, company, political candidate, and so on? Might we come to learn that offline opinion polls provide a much truer picture of a particular target audience's (even in a one-to-one comparison) inclinations than online polling? If so, what value does social polling provide that offline polling can't -- and how do we take best advantage of each?

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"Do people react differently online then they do offline...?" Indeed. I didn't see that issue addressed in subsequent responses (unless I missed one — while just skimming). Based on various experiences online and offline with the same people, I tend to think there is a fairly significant difference in behavior, responses to surveys, etc. (For example, you have a lot less anonymity offline than online.)

I wonder if there's been any good, hard research on this.

 

 

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tinym   2/14/2012 10:08:34 PM
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SparkScore looks really interesting, even if the data can't quite be verified yet.

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BethSchultz   2/14/2012 6:51:29 PM
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@webmetricsguru, thanks for the info. Sounds great, and I'll do my best to listen in and share with our audience, too.

 

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Re: Of what value is online opinion really?
BethSchultz   2/14/2012 6:49:38 PM
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@Seth -- I agree with your statement that the "model for measuring is different for each company" -- in fact I think it'd be foolish for companies to think there's a one-size-fits-all to work with! But I'm wondering if we can come to some basic rules of thumb or common best practices around all of this. What do you think?

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Re: Of what value is online opinion really?
SethBreedlove   2/14/2012 5:01:30 PM
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The proof that the correlation between social media chit chat and word of mouth depends entirely upon the product is a migrane for companies to deal with. 

HP Printers launched a pilot in 2011 that says social media can be merged with company data to predict the consumer behavior of over 1 billion users in over 170 countries with 90% accuracy. They devolped a consumer intelligence model to miminize information asymmetry.  There presentation is here on Slide Share at this link: http://www.slideshare.net/hewlettpackard/how-hp-is-learning-to-predict-customer-behavior-by-merging-social-media-and-company-data 

 

The lesson to me would be that the model for measuring is different for each company and one can't assume that a vendor with a one-size fits all approach will benefit a comany. 

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