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Re: Lowest rung of the employment ladder
Ariella   6/14/2015 5:30:35 PM
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@Louis true.

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Louis Watson   6/14/2015 5:15:02 PM
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@Ariella   I figured you knew about it. : )   My statement was more for the uninformed in general.  

There are a few sectors out there that skew the real numbers - another industry that comes to mind is Hollywood.   Those that work there also make well more than otherwise would be the case.

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Ariella   6/14/2015 4:53:08 PM
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@Louis yes, that's my impression. I do also know about Wall Street jobs paying better. When my husband worked on Walls Street, he was paid a lot more than he is in his present position. 

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Ariella   6/14/2015 4:47:54 PM
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@kq4ym been there, done that myself. I also recall taking a summer job and only being informed after starting that the owners were taking a summer vacation of a couple of weeks. Of course, they expected me to then take vacation, as well, which knocked 2 weeks of pay off of working time of just a couple of months. 

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Louis Watson   6/14/2015 4:42:06 PM
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@Ariella   Thanks for the link, I must admit I have trouble keeping up with the latest figures on salaries, though I have been getting better in this area of late.   Yet I am still surprised at the figures and it certainly speaks to your point that the supply (world wide) is affecting this once very profitable endeavor.

Of course it depends on what sector you work in as well - a Wall Street programmer is more than likely making more money than most other sectors out there for instance but in general the USNews figures probably ring close to reality.

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Louis Watson   6/14/2015 4:27:40 PM
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@Joe @Ariella    I agree with both positions. It is a valuable skill that can seperate, but as Ariella mentions the competition is fierce. Maybe we should cut down the middle and state, it is a "must have competency" just like the basics.

Some might not like that - stating learning is already complicated enough - well unfortunately (or fortunately) this is the World we live and compete in today.

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kq4ym   6/14/2015 4:19:05 PM
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There's surely lots of companies using such schemes to determine how many employess to have on and and at what hours. Think of the construction industry, for example. You can bet that there's lots of folks who show up for work or arre notified "no work" today. Or are send home early. In my student days I can remember those wasted hours for no pay as I was either sent home early or asked to show up for just a few hours. 

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Ariella   5/26/2015 9:36:33 AM
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@Joe @Louis Sure programmers are in demand, but their type of work is incredibly easy to import. Consequently, programmers are not just competing with other qualified people in their area but with qualified people all over the globe. For years, companies have outsourced programming jobs overseas to save money. That's not to say that all programmers will find themselves with low salaries; the earnings are not bad. But the average American programmer is not earning 6 figures. See http://money.usnews.com/careers/best-jobs/computer-programmer/salary

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Joe Stanganelli   5/24/2015 9:51:30 PM
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We may be waiting quite a while... As MIT professor Erik Brynjolfsson pointed out in a presentation at the recent MIT Sloan CIO Symposium, on top of stagnating employment, workers are making the same amount of money as they were 15-20 years ago -- due, in part, to companies not taking advantage of the new business models and efficiencies that technologies like big-data analytics and IoT have to offer.

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Joe Stanganelli   5/24/2015 9:48:00 PM
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More to the point, I'm increasingly of the viewpoint that knowledge workers in most areas who do not have programming skills will be left behind -- because those in traditionally non-programming disciplines who do have that programming ability will be able to do much more, and more efficiently.

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