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With Big-Data, the Mainframe Specter Rises – Again

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bkbeverly
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Re: Mainframe or HPA?
bkbeverly   10/31/2012 1:35:05 PM
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Hi Beth,

Actually, I see organizations making decisions to move away from mainframes for cost reasons and stay away from/move cautiously toward HPA for cost reasons.  There are exceptions like the Census Bureau, which processes huge volumes of data and has licensed most of SAS' products.  But outside of the Census Bureau, shops with legacy applications are trying to migrate productions systems to UNIX servers to save money. Often these same shops have invested in contract labor augmentation vis-à-vis investing in new analytic software such as HPA.  Seasoned contractors with database and analytic skills can mimic the HPA environment without the sponsors having to purchase additional software.  Location is also important.  SAS human capital is abundant between Virginia (Northern) to New Jersey; NESUG is one of the largest conferences. In those areas where talent acquisition is a challenge, organizations lean toward purchasing solutions like HPA.  In short, companies invest in either people or a product line. Acquiring affordable off-shore talent is also a popular option in the effort to migrate from big boxes and high-end solutions.  Traditionally, SAS' did most of its high end solutions in Europe, the Middle East and Asia because the talent pool was sparse.  The US had more analytics talent (as demonstrated by the plethora of users groups).  If shops can get their staffs to design efficient solutions, they will do so (the cost of training is less than expanding the range of licensed products).  But if the younger talent pool has more heterogeneous interests (products beyond analytics), the HPA is seen as the better choice.

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What's old is new again
Callmebob   10/31/2012 12:40:04 PM
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Some things never die. Everyone still has a calculator lying around the house, heck I even have a TI 10-key adding machine I could never part with, particularly helpful during tax season. I'm not surprised that the rust has been scraped off the Big Iron with the rise of Big-Data and the demand for number crunching is heightened. Now, if the power grid can keep pace.

So, what's next? Time to dust off my abacus skills?

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mnorth   10/31/2012 12:28:05 PM
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For those of us who are old school but young at heart, we will concede that the mainframe won't die.  It just keeps getting reinvented.  At the IACIS conference in Myrtle Beach earlier this month, network appliances were demonstrated that enable computer labs or workstation clusters to be set up using virtualization.  Effectively, what was being shown was a new-fangled, Windows-based version of mainframe/terminal architecture.  It was presented as if it were something new, and yet the underlying concepts were exactly the same as whay my dad was doing at Sperry/UNIVAC 40 years ago!  At that same conference, cloud concepts were demonstrated, but you could have pulled the word "cloud" out of the paper and replaced it with "timesharing" and the paper could have just as easily have been written about MIT's 1960's project CTSS.

In my view, there are certain foundational concepts or architectures, if you will, that transcend the passage of time.  The hardware will get faster, more sophisticated, more capable, but the underlying implementation concepts remain largely unchanged.  Certainly there were game-changing technologies that invent their own framework or foundation, but those are few and far between.

That said, there's no shame in building a better mainframe, even if it's not sexy to call it that.

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Re: Mainframe or HPA?
kicheko   10/31/2012 10:08:00 AM
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When i began learning about computers something like 12 years ago, we already learnt about mainframes in the history part of computers and didn't have a place we could go to see an actual mainframe. Its interesting how they've been creeping back to relevance in the wake of big-data since about 2 years ago, something like the return of the dinosaurs and the IBM empire...

PS: i didn't get what HPA stands for.

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Mainframe or HPA?
BethSchultz   10/31/2012 9:40:27 AM
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Hi Bryan, we hear a lot these days about high-performance analytics, using speedy processing techniques like in-database computing, in-memory computing, or grid computing (HPA, of course, is favorite of SAS, this site's sponsor). Do you see organizations making a mainframe or HPA decision?

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