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Making a Career out of Data Science – or Not

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Ariella
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Re: all jobs are temporary
Ariella   12/6/2012 9:24:59 AM
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@Broadway Well, maybe we can have an update of Cluny Brown in which Cluny does get to pursue her passion for plumbing and supports her writer husband instead of the other way around. 

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Broadway   12/5/2012 9:32:08 PM
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@Ariella, once they start having action and romance packed hour-long TV shows about plumbers -- just like they do for cops, lawyers and doctors, over and over and over again -- then perhaps plumbers will get some respect.

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Ariella   12/5/2012 8:39:37 AM
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@Broadway, sure. And to return to mechanics, the one I usually go to owns the garage, has several people working for him, and always has customers streaming in. If I recall correctly, he may even own his own plane. Now, it's possible that he didi go to college, but the skills needed with respect to diagnosing cars and then to run a business are more a matter of what one picks up outside academic walls. There are countless other examples of people who have succeeded very well in business without college degrees, but young people pick up on the social cues that regard doctors with more respect than plumbers, even though plumbers are not subject to contract amounts stipulated by medical insurance companies. 

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Broadway   12/4/2012 8:42:56 PM
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@Ariella, I once worked for a landscaper who was an angry angry man. He never went to college and I think he wanted to run me over with one of his mowers because I did. Anyway, he loved the fact that as an "uneducated" man, he owned his own business and did very very well for himself working with his hands.

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SethBreedlove   12/3/2012 8:25:04 PM
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I agree that all jobs are temporary. They might be temporary for 50 years, but they are still temporary. 

I remember back in the 1990's after the recession, I was very worried that my resume had just one or two years there and there because so many companies I worked for went under.  But then times changed and now that is normal.  

My question is, What can a person do to once they've already graduated to acquire the skills to be a data scientist?"  Online or in person classes are one option, but are there others? 

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Noreen Seebacher   12/3/2012 2:04:04 PM
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I never gave a thought to annual income when I was preparing for a career. But I have to admit: I wish now that I had!

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BethSchultz   12/3/2012 12:44:04 PM
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Well said Bryan. Life does have a funny way of interfering with or forcing a revision of career goals -- although I'd like to think that as those changes happen individual's still put professionalism, ethics, excellence, etc. at the forefront of how they approach each job.

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BethSchultz   12/3/2012 12:41:06 PM
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Hi Hospice -- I didn't say it was the right thing to do, only that lots do it! And, in so doing, are being shortsighted. I'm not sure I'd agree, though, at least on a personal level, that I was taught that a job should first be a social duty. Can you explain what you mean by that?

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Ariella   12/3/2012 8:46:52 AM
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@Hospice " but "weren't we" taught at school that a job should first of all be viewed as a "social duty"? :D" Were you? When I taught college, the students main interest was to do what they wanted. Considerations of money and status were clearly a factor. For example, I had a student who worked as a car mechanic. But he was in college to qualify for white collar work. Even though car mechanics can earn a lot more than many white collar workers, he wanted the status that American society conveys on those who don't have to get their hand dirty at work. 

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Broadway   12/2/2012 8:48:56 PM
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@Hospice, I wrote that comment after listening to a Wall St. exec give a talk, and he was all about saying every employer he's worked for, he went into it believing he'd last there forever. Things didn;t work out at his old employers ... he now is boss of his own firm. He also believed climbing the ladder was a matter of mind over matter. So not sure how much stock I should have put into his wisdom.

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