Bryan Beverly

Managers: Do They Help or Hinder?

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Re: No magic job description
bkbeverly   1/30/2017 2:22:46 PM
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@Michelle - I guess that is where the fine print of accreditation comes in.  I guess anyone could create an MBA program - the students read some papers and write some papers, pass a test and get a diploma - all for a fee.  Whether that degree is worth anything in the market place is another matter.  I guess the real value of an MBA is how much you paid to get one that is sanctioned by a recognized body. Whether you are fit to be a manager afterwards - that's another story.

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Michelle   1/30/2017 1:52:54 PM
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I have often wondered how a part time executive program could compete with its full time equivelent. They are different programs with different goals with similar names. I have read that some executive programs aren't as well regarded by employers as the full time versions. I suspect this could be true of MBA programs as well.

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Zimana   1/30/2017 1:32:06 PM
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The executive programs can be - much of their value is towards a specific industry local to the area, like technology or automotive.  They tend to lack the diversity that MBA full time program strive to establish with each class.

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bkbeverly   1/30/2017 12:35:17 PM
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@TS, Point well taken. Professonal development is an investment in human captital; tax incentives cannot be ignored.

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bkbeverly   1/30/2017 12:29:07 PM
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@Lyndon, Hey you can have those buddy, the machine learning will only be as good as the information, culture and value systems fed into it; I will take my chances with flesh and blood (smile).

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Lyndon_Henry   1/29/2017 11:53:34 PM
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..

Brian writes

... but what about the human aspects of managerial tasks?  When someone needs to take bereavment leave or when an employee loses a building access badge? How would a robot handle an fire drill or active shooter situation?  I believe they could handle work related decision support questions.  But if they handled every aspect of managerial accountability, then that would truly be dystopian!



Maybe clever algorithms can be developed and tweaked over time through trial-and-error? And what good is machine learning if the machines can't learn some empathy?

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Re: No magic job description
Michelle   1/29/2017 7:44:02 PM
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@Terry I can imagine executive education MBA programs are most profitable.

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Michelle   1/29/2017 7:37:13 PM
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@Broadway I have to agree with you there. MBA programs do seem to miss many aspects of management or leadership. They may cover such topics but don't seem to provide enough depth to be really valuable.

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T Sweeney   1/29/2017 4:34:10 PM
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Don't most companies get tax breaks/credits for $ devoted to training and education like MBAs? I hear what you're saying about offering these degrees to worthy candidates, but companies also have another incentive to do it.

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T Sweeney   1/29/2017 4:28:36 PM
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I think MBA programs are also expert at taking people with arts & sciences degrees (i.e., non-business students as undergrads) and turning them into reasonably smart businesspeople with sufficient self-awareness to admit what they don't know and to ask alot of questions.

Ironically, MBA programs are huge profit centers for most universities, a point that seems to get lost in the whirl of accounting, finance, marketing, leadership and management coursework.

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