Bryan Beverly

Postmodern Analytics: The Emergence of ‘Alternative Facts’

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Ariella
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Ariella   2/17/2017 1:27:52 PM
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@PC there is the ideal, and then there is reality. Jacob Bronowski said, "No science is immune to the infection of politics and the corruption of power."

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Ariella   2/17/2017 11:58:08 AM
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@James Really, that's your read on Scarlett? The same actress from that film adaption showed what it's like to live in an alternative realm in "A Streetcar Named Desire."

Anyway, I found a course that is meant to address just this problem, though I'm not sure it can be named on this forum. The site is CallingBullS---.org and that's what it is supposed to be about with the addition of "in the age of big data." 

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Re: Objective
James Connolly   2/17/2017 9:08:32 AM
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@Bryan. The rich, the powerful, "to the manor born." Yes, they can create alternative facts. When I read your response it made me think back and the name Scarlett O'Hara popped into my head. Rich, powerful, definitely manor born, and living in the ultimate realm of alternative facts.

The trouble is, I don't think we have a Clark Gable who can put today's alternative fact mongers in their place.

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Re: Objective
bkbeverly   2/16/2017 8:07:19 PM
@PC,

I would say that is a risk unless we (to use the urban vernacular of socio-historical awareness) stay 'woke' (that is an intentional grammatical construction - smile).  Your point is valid - our national domestic policy on science determines funding. The verbal cues toward the social value of truth, truth as a cheap commoditized public economic good and treating truth as a quantum entity (i.e., Schroedinger's Cat - truth is dead and alive) sends signals to law makers that the advancement of knowledge will not put us on the path to greatness.  The promise of bringing back the good old days of manufacturing is a false hope unless we are manufacturing applications written in .NET and C#.  If we are not vigilant then yes, politics can prevent us from advancing in Science, Technology, Engineering and Math.

Allegorically, we have a segment of our country that suffers from Rip Van Winkle Syndrome. It's not that they slept 20 years, but rather they slept through a revolution. They just realized that the economy they enjoyed under King George III no longer works under George Washington; the Union Jack has been replaced with the Stars and Bars.  Instead of wanting to learn new technologies, they want the musket factories to come back.  So yes to your point, if the general population goes to sleep, then there will not be investments into advanced technology but rather musket repair tools.

Excellent point about pre-western cultures that advanced via innovation; we often forget that the Egyptians built the pyramids without AGILE methods or project management software. In fact, the Egyptians, Israel (under David and Solomon), Babylonians, Persians, Greeks, Romans all made some efforts to advance knowledge in some respect to help their civilizations remain economically and militarily competitive - regionally and globally.

So yes, I would say that unless the thought leaders of the hard sciences and knowledge workers in general (us) keep lobbying and keep pressing the need to invest in the intellectual development of human capital, then I think we will fall behind. Mind you, I am a person for whom matters of faith are the core of my life. But that does not mean that I shut down my brain.  There is room for faith and science, and it does not have to be an either/or situation, but both/and. In fact, it is through the advancement of science and knowledge discovery that I can better appreciate the One whom I believe is the source of all knowledge.

So yes - we must stay 'woke' or repeat the tragedy of Rip Van Winkle; advanced analytics that lead to knowledge discovery or muskets - it's our choice.

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PredictableChaos   2/16/2017 6:37:11 PM
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@Bryan - 

Science, at least the hard sciences, are built on objectivity.

There were many relatively advanced cultures in the ancient world, for example in Egypt, China, Persia and Greece which did not lead to the blooming of modern science. (Each of them had substantial innovation, but not to the point of transforming society with the scientific method.)

Do we risk slipping back into a culture where the advances of science are slowed or stopped because politics does not allow science to go wherever the truth leads? Because our philosophy as a culture is unwilling to say that some ideas are not true? Or unwilling to fund research that is unpopular?

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bkbeverly   2/16/2017 3:16:10 PM
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@Jim,

I would guess that it would drive them as batty as it does us. As I sift through your points, what jumps out at me is that we (the non-ultra rich and non-ultra powerful) do not have the will to create our own realities by the sheer force of our wealth or connections.  We live in a world where there are limits and where natural, social and behavioral phenonmena can be measured in discrete units and in a repeatable fashion. But if one is 'to the manor born', then you are used to either having or imposing your own realities; you see what you want, you count what you want and you can grab what you want. Most of us don't live in that rarified air.  We live in a world of common sense and not where we can impose manifest destiny upon reality.

So I am pretty sure that those in the hard sciences are going nuts because they by nature and nurture, by gift and by training, engage the world as it is and not as they wish it to be. For them, if the facts do not exist, they do not have the money and power to manufacture some alternative ones. When you have been used to deploying investigative and epistemological approaches in seeking knowledge, it must be disheartening to know that you could just make up your own - would have saved the cost of a graduate degree. Kudos - point well taken!

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bkbeverly   2/16/2017 1:14:56 PM
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@SaneIT,

That's a tough nut to crack because those who advocate for the end of political correctness (i.e., say whatever you want, unfiltered and unvarnished) are also advocates for Alternative Facts. In effect, they feel free to express their thoughts but also want to use that freedom to reshape reality.  Somehow we must move to the middle where we burst the tinted bubbles but not replace them with rose colored glasses. Hence, I think we start by speaking the truth in love, and continue to remonstrate against individuals and institutions that create a false sense of superiority of the insecure and inept, and a false sense of inferiority of the ready, willing and able. I think it means reclaiming those 'truths that were self evident that all are created equal'. I think it means being willing to be unfollowed on Facebook and speaking truth to power irrespective of the consequences. I think it means that we must reach a national consensus that the only way to make America great again is to locate our moral compasses.

And we can do this at a very granular level by asking each one to reach one, starting at the dining room table tonight.

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James Connolly   2/16/2017 12:15:41 PM
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@SaneIT

The question then is the therapist visit delayed until those harsh truths hit them as adults?


By "harsh realities" do you mean, "Yes, you do have to show up at work every day," and "If you don't pay your rent you are out"?

True, living in a world of alternative facts doesn't prepare kids for that reality.

I wonder what professionals who live in a world of "hard" science -- physics, chemistry, etc. -- and math (numbers are numbers) think about this talk of alternative facts. Just mere thought that you can look at a gathering of people, count heads, and still come up with estimates that vary by 50% even 100% must be sending those scientists to their own therapists.

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SaneIT   2/16/2017 11:04:13 AM
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"Second, in an effort to ensure that all children have high self esteem and never need a therapist, we have been allowing them to feel entitled to their own realities instead of giving them the harsh truths of life. "

The question then is the therapist visit delayed until those harsh truths hit them as adults?  Are we setting ourselves up for failure by painting a picture that is far enough from reality that when the truth hits it becomes damaging?  If you tell the CEO what he wants to hear because you can support it with "alternative facts" are you doing the company any good?  When performance falters and he gets his severance package will yours look anywhere as good?  Postmodernism seems to be creating a world of bubbles where if you stay in your bubble everything can be great but reality is that you have to exit that bubble at least occasionally. How do we lay down a foundation of truth that even those in the darkest tinted bubbles can see them?

 

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The Challenge of Discerning Integrity in Analytics
bkbeverly   2/16/2017 9:34:21 AM
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Lyndon_H's comments in another post reminded me not only of the inherent logical fallaciousness of postmodernism (saying there are not absolute truths cannot be assumed to be absolutely true - the premise is self contradictory) but also the challenge in analytics of ensuring data integrity. Here is a post from 2014 on this topic. In 3/14, we did not have alternative facts but we have always needed methodological approaches of ensuring internal and external validity of our results.

www.allanalytics.com/author.asp?section_id=1828&doc_id=271968

And here is one from 2012 on the subject of ethical practices in analytics.  It might surprise you how often ethics impacts our work.

www.allanalytics.com/author.asp?section_id=1828&doc_id=242331

 

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