Tricia Aanderud

Team Trump, Team Clinton: Enough Already!

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Joe Stanganelli
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Re: I've Dumped A Trump Supporter
Joe Stanganelli   1/5/2017 6:26:55 PM
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@Jim:

> But why spend five minutes trying to be right when you have data that sounds good to you and your political/social mindset?

I think that's how a lot of data science gets practiced in enterprises today.  ;)

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Re: I've Dumped A Trump Supporter
Lyndon_Henry   1/5/2017 5:37:16 PM
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Seems to me one of the core themes of Tricia's initial blog post was the political polarization of the USA. On Jan. 17th and 18th, PBS's Frontline series is going to feature a two-part special report on this very issue, titled Divided States of America.

I dunno if it will deal with the social media issue, or how the polling led to such wrong predictions, but it's probably a relevant informational input into the process of trying to fix the glitches.

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Re: Election-time SomeEcards
Zimana   1/5/2017 11:13:15 AM
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True, especially with bots now crawling Twitter - I am struggling to imagine if Twitter has some dark days ahead. But people do achieve advocation on social media. Pwe institute notes as much as 20% or people surveyed do change their minds.

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Re: Election-time SomeEcards
kq4ym   12/28/2016 9:33:55 AM
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It might also be argued that tweets in general are really a sort of false news. Politicians are not noted for universally telling the truth or what they really believe. If we could " use follower counts to determine the next president," that might be a way of measuring popularity or even notoriety, but it wouldn't be a way to find the truth of the matter of if those social communications are actually useful for getting at the truth.

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Fake news has become a serious threat
Lyndon_Henry   12/27/2016 10:14:48 PM
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Jim writes

Fake news in a time of crisis is nothing new. The challenge is in understanding how quickly it can spread and getting people to validate those rumors/news reports. I think of it today as the Facebook data problem, those statistics that live on and on despite being easily disproven.



 

A2 has hosted a number of discussions about the validity of data, the reliability of information and news, and the early signs of the emergence of the "fake news" issue.

Now, especially during and now in the aftermath of this year's catastrophic presidential election, Fake News has ascended as one of the really hot and persistent issues engulifing not just politics, not just journalism, but the contextual societal perception of reality and what's true and what's false ... and whether anyone can really tell the difference anymore. I wonder how this will pan out in situations like courtroom litligation, where the validity of evidence is frequently a central issue. Should be interesting ...

And in case you've missed the news (presumably not fake), the far right has seized on the buzzword of Fake News to brand virtually all mainstream media (plus any other published news they dispute) with the term. On Christmas Day, the New York Times published a report on this: Wielding Claims of 'Fake News,' Conservatives Take Aim at Mainstream Media.

And these same forces aren't stopping there – they've turned their sights on fact-checking efforts, as well, such as the Snopes.com site: For Fact-Checking Website Snopes, a Bigger Role Brings More Attacks.

Take a few moments to contemplate the implications for scientific research, data analysis, and similar pursuits in a country where there is wide general disagreement on what's real, what's fictitious, and whether there's anything that can be described as true or false or right or wrong. Sounds a bit like a science-fiction nightmare, but that may be where the USA is headed ...

Happy New Year ...

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Re: I've Dumped A Trump Supporter
Zimana   12/27/2016 7:54:39 PM
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Will have to check that book out.  Thanks for sharing it.

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Re: Election-time SomeEcards
James Connolly   12/1/2016 8:53:14 AM
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@Pierre. Fake news in a time of crisis is nothing new. The challenge is in understanding how quickly it can spread and getting people to validate those rumors/news reports. I think of it today as the Facebook data problem, those statistics that live on and on despite being easily disproven.

How old is fake news. After the battles of Lexington and Concord, word spread throughout the colonies that the British soldiers were "scalping" the Minutemen. That atrocity was easily disproved by witnesses who said the couple incidents of so-called scalping were actually cases where there was hand to hand combat and some Americans were killed by soldiers swinging empty muskets like clubs. Of course, the myth lived on, perpetuated by the "tavern talk" that was the Facebook of the day, and some Americans continued to take revenge on the British soldiers in the years that followed.

That could have been avoided if they just had Google.

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Re: Election-time SomeEcards
Zimana   11/30/2016 9:34:15 PM
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We're going to see a lot of dialogue about cyberwarfarem especially with fake news being news.  How can a democracy operate when its citizens are sending fake concepts? Not well.

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Re: I've Dumped A Trump Supporter
Zimana   11/30/2016 9:31:33 PM
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I think that is coming, though a challenge is sifting real sentiment from bot.  There was a lot of debate about how many real follower profiles Trump had during the election.  Some were bots that could even respond. I recall when just ahve any sentiment on Twitter was questioned.  Sifting through real response versus bots that have been able to respond as aperson is now the barrier.

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Re: I've Dumped A Trump Supporter
Zimana   11/30/2016 9:27:49 PM
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But there would really need to be dancing - a lot of dancing. ;-)

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