Matthew Brodsky

Educating Analysts, One Way or Another

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Re: Choose your own...
bulk   3/24/2012 11:49:49 PM
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@Broadway, thats a great point, everyone does learn differently. I am sure both programs are great, but I am in the same boat with you and would probably still stick with NC. 

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Re: People Skills and Analysts
ckelly1   3/24/2012 10:42:26 AM
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Broadway.  When I speak of Education, I may not be as versed as you are.  By the way with the advent of Social Media..no humanites degree is useless ( my opinion).

The approach of viewing a employer as a customer takes all of emotional issues out of the agreement.  I think in the past the employer/employee relationship was based on rules that no longer exisit..like you will provide for me into retirement. 

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Re: Agreed but...
Shawn Hessinger   3/23/2012 11:54:50 PM
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Matt,

I think this aspect of the program is its single most innovative component since it insures that students will be learning and evolving along with the industry right up until graduation and so will be infinitely more prepared for the real work environment in the industry once they enter the workforce.

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Broadway   3/23/2012 11:45:53 PM
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@bulk, one thing I think it's important to consider when deciding which program would be better for you is that everyone learns differently. Some students might appreciate the traditional structure at Northwestern -- might actually require the classroom setting and instruction for them to maximize their educational experience. Whereas, for me, for instance, I learn best by doing. So maybe NC State would be best for me. 

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Re: People Skills and Analysts
Broadway   3/23/2012 11:41:52 PM
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@ckelly1, as someone with work experience in higher education and a "worthless" master's degree (in history), I actually found this notion of "employer as customer" a bit disconcerting. It makes perfect sense from a basic supply and demand viewpoint --- one of the major selling points of the NC State program to its students is that they will in be high demand by employers and get big paychecks right out of school --- but from a philosophical standpoint, it's almost like higher education losing its way. Selling out. No?

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Broadway   3/23/2012 11:36:31 PM
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@Shawn, one of the ways that the NC State program remains "fresh" and in tune with what employers want is that it stays in constant contact with employers --- corporate and other real-world organizations submit projects to the Institute, things they really need done, and these are the projects that the NC State student teams take on during their coursework.

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Broadway   3/23/2012 11:33:16 PM
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@Beth, that was definitely one common thread between the two master's programs: the need to create analysts who would be leaders, communicators and team-members, if not team- and consensus builders. It is a matter of creating analysts who don't hide in their offices and believe they're only job is to crunch the numbers. That's not what employers want.

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People Skills and Analysts
ckelly1   3/23/2012 6:05:25 AM
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So glad education is catching up with the real world.  As has been discussed in other posts..the role of an effective Analyst has as much to do with technical skills as people skills.  Viewing an Employer as a customer or visa versa is novel...and a great way to look at it.

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Shawn Hessinger   3/22/2012 11:58:11 PM
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Thanks for the input. It'll be interesting see what other kinds of training programs emerge to meet the growing demand.

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bulk   3/22/2012 11:32:27 PM
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To me the program at NC State seems to be interesting. If each problem solving group you move to builds on the one before it I think this could be a great format. Like i said it has to build on itself so when you look back you can understand how each piece fits to make the big picture. Thats my thoughts anyway. So I would pick NC. 

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