REGISTER   |   LOGIN   |   HELP
Home  |  Blogs  |  Message Boards  |  Webinars  |  Resources |  By Channel
Noreen Seebacher

Love You... Where's My Ham?

NO RATINGS
View Comments: Newest First | Oldest First | Threaded View
Lyndon_Henry
User Rank
Blogger
Re: False positives...
Lyndon_Henry   12/28/2012 12:00:52 PM
NO RATINGS
..

MNorth writes


 Every business must deal to some extent with the frustrating balancing act of filling orders that aren't real vs. orders that don't look real but are and need to be filled.


 

When I was a kid, it was in vogue to order pizza over the phone to be delivered to some unsuspecting grumpy neighbor, then peek out the window and do the equivalent of ROFL over the confusion when the delivery boy arrived with the undesired pizza.

These days, I would want to perform "enhanced interrogation techniques" upon the perpetrators (whether I were the delivery guy or the recipient) ... but anyway, I would think that the amazing benefits of today's Big-Data/Analytics world, where they can trace you from your phone number (and who knows what else?), and then the increasing practice of requiring a credit card confirmation, are all conspiring to increasingly squelch opportunities for pranksterism.

With the undelivered orders of ham, I suspect something else may be in play...

kq4ym
User Rank
Prospector
Re: False positives...
kq4ym   12/28/2012 6:56:14 AM
NO RATINGS
Yep, employee training is a must. How many times do you see an ad for a store special and questions an employee about it and come up with a blank stare.

Data is great and using it can improve the bottom line, but management must increase employee training to make it work successfully without making bad impressions on customers.

Ariella
User Rank
Blogger
ham for the holidays
Ariella   12/11/2012 9:05:44 AM
NO RATINGS
I've seen the picture of ham offered for Hanukah. While it strikes many as strange, the fact is that many celebrate the holiday who do not keep kosher. So there really is a possible market. Perhaps someone thought it would go well with latkes. 

Ariella
User Rank
Blogger
Re: False positives...
Ariella   12/11/2012 9:01:58 AM
NO RATINGS
@Noreen from the perspective of the woman who took the order, it sounded suspect. Perhaps she got in trouble in the past for putting through orders that no one ever picked up. So she was being circumspect. In contrast, I recently tried to order pizza from a new place that opened in my neighborhood and now expect that they won't stick around very long.

The phone was busy, busy, busy. Finally, a woman picked up the phone but refused to take the order, telling me to call back in 10 minutes. I tried. It was busy, busy, busy, busy, then ringing with no one to pick up, then busy, busy. Finally, after I don't know how many tries, a woman picked up the phone, and I finally gave in my order to be ready with more than 45 minutes to spare. She took down my name and phone number. But when my husband went to pick it up at the time, they had nothing ready and no record of the order. They said it would be another 20 minutes until pizza would be ready. When my husband called to ask if he should wait, I told him not to. We ended up picking up pizza at a shop that's been here for over a decade and knows to have pies ready at meal times -- even without orders. 

 

SaneIT
User Rank
Data Doctor
Re: False positives...
SaneIT   12/11/2012 8:04:29 AM
NO RATINGS
I think I've heard this one before http://www.inquisitr.com/29647/million-dollar-ham/

There are inside jokes and other external factors that can lead to people doing odd things.  I've been in situations where I had to question if a person really wanted what they were asking for and if they understood what they were asking for.  In the two pounds of ham example I wouldn't be surprised if a local TV channel mentioned something outrageous like what the government spent for two pounds of ham and it resulted in deli's getting calls checking on the price of sliced meats.  These kinds of things are hard to catch from a data standpoint so while they look like outliers it's possible that they have a common thread.

Noreen Seebacher
User Rank
Blogger
Re: False positives...
Noreen Seebacher   12/10/2012 2:28:45 PM
NO RATINGS
Wanna hear a joke, SaneIT? "Two pounds of ham!"

SaneIT
User Rank
Data Doctor
Re: False positives...
SaneIT   12/10/2012 8:53:56 AM
NO RATINGS
I think the examples here are more issues of perception not data indicating that the orders were suspect.  Now if that deli had been experiencing a high number of people ordering 2lbs of ham and then not picking it up I could see where their excuse would be valid but I suspect that it was probably more of a catch all.  Rather than saying, "we're really busy and I lost your order"  they just said "oh I thought it was a joke".   As for the big data side of ordering food goes I can see it's usefulness if you've got demographics and you have some insight into orders that tend not to be picked up or the delivery driver ends up being pranked or stiffed on payment I could see having a talk with the person placing the order before actually filling it or sending a driver out.

BethSchultz
User Rank
Blogger
Re: False positives...
BethSchultz   12/7/2012 12:50:48 PM
NO RATINGS
@Matt, John Barnes warns us about those dang outliers in his blog from earlier this week! Don't You Regress With Your Regressions  

BethSchultz
User Rank
Blogger
Caio! Seebachers
BethSchultz   12/7/2012 12:44:45 PM
NO RATINGS
@Noreen, my question is, had you ever ordered from the "love you not" pizzeria? Seems to me if three speciality pies were an unusual order that would have stuck in her mind -- like, "Oh, it's them again." What poor customer service. I know our local favorite wouldn't flinch if we called and ordered three times as many pies as that (not only do I have a large family but I come from a large family so entertaining requires big orders).

mnorth
User Rank
Blogger
False positives...
mnorth   12/7/2012 11:05:18 AM
NO RATINGS
It seems to me that in the examples of the pizzas and ham, it was people who decided to kick out an order because it looked bogus.  Analytics can do this too, because every model has false positives, and both analytics and people are sensitive to what appear to be outliers.

I live in an area where Sheetz and Wawa, two convenience store/gas station companies, have turned to kiosk-based food ordering systems to drive revenue.  So far as I have been able to tell (I'll admit I've never tested it too far), if an order is placed, it gets filled.  I can imagine some teenagers (or adults who behave as children), have thought it would be funny to go in, tap in a bunch of orders, then walk out of the store and abandon the food. Every business must deal to some extent with the frustrating balancing act of filling orders that aren't real vs. orders that don't look real but are and need to be filled.

More Blogs from Noreen Seebacher
A recent All Analytics Quick Poll shows nearly three out of four people think investors should rely more on data than intuition.
Text and social media analytics could be the next big thing for federal regulators and lawmakers.
Data guru Nate Silver was a keynote speaker at the 2013 SAS Government Leadership Summit in Washington, D.C.
A new NYC group wants to examine the mathematical, ethical, and business aspects of data from a skeptical perspective.
US government experts still do not agree on a definition for big-data.
AllAnalytics House Ad
AllAnalytics House Ad
AllAnalytics Video Blogs
Nate Silver Unplugged
Celebrity statistician Nate Silver at the SAS ...

1:37

2 comments
Marketing Your Analytics
Humana's Elizabeth Barth-Thacker tells us how her ...

2:21

0 comments
Amazon & Analytics
Amazon has expanded into the world of business ...

3:04

2 comments
The High Price of a Big Banana
There are no analytics to explain the volatility of ...

2:53

8 comments
Fraud Failure
Insurance companies have no excuse not to be using ...

2:26

2 comments
Teaching Users to 'Fish'
Rajeev Kaul, SVP of pricing at OfficeMax, explains ...

2:04

2 comments
Stuck on the Train
Cutting the number of cars on my commuter train was ...

2:22

11 comments
Strength in Numbers
Hear, hear! to the folks who count themselves among ...

1:32

1 comment
Fool's Gold
You don't always find what you want when you data-mine.

1:50

3 comments
Ford Revs Up With Big-Data
In an All Analytics interview, Mike Cavaretta, ...

2:44

2 comments
Get On With It!
Analytics professionals and SAS executives share ...

2:32

1 comment
Power to the Visualization
Analytics professionals who attended SAS's recent ...

2:03

1 comment
Mental Model Lifts Boeing
At Boeing, effective decision making comes down to ...

2:01

2 comments
What Users Want Next
Attendees at the recent SAS Executive Briefing in ...

2:31

4 comments
The Power to Discover
SAS CEO Jim Goodnight talks about new realities ...

3:36

1 comment
Quick Poll
AllAnalytics Videos
Visual Analytics, Instant ...
Analytics results delivered in visual form are ...

2:06

1 comment
Big Data, Fast Infrastructure
Big data calls for a high-performance analytics ...

3:35

6 comments
Red Hot Analytics
Jayson Tipp, Redbox VP of Analytics and CRM, ...

3:51

3 comments
Hotelier Checks Out Analytics
InterContinental Hotels Group has woven analytics ...

06:55

11 comments
Digital Audio
Latest Archived Broadcast
Companies today must be analytically agile to compete based on their data and analytics.
Live Video
On-demand Video with Chat
Analytics-fueled data visualizations can be a real game-changer when you're exploring the data and assessing results.
Readerboards
Have a question or topic but don't want to write a blog? Post it on our readerboards and get feedback from the community!
5/23/2013 8:57:20 AM
Noreen Seebacher on Ain't wasting time no more?
5/22/2013 8:55:01 PM
Noreen Seebacher on Adults to students
MORE READERBOARDS
Upcoming Events
for the Business and IT Communities
Executive forums with additional hands-on learning opportunities offered around the world
Each ideal for practitioners, Business leaders & senior executives
NYC, Boston, Philadelphia, Chicago, Minneapolis/St. Paul, Rockville, San Francisco, Los Angeles/Irvine, Dallas, Atlanta
AllAnalytics on Twitter
AllAnalytics Twitter Feed
Like Us on Facebook
Point/CounterpointBlog
LEADERS FROM THE BUSINESS AND IT COMMUNITIES DUEL OVER CRITICAL TECHNOLOGY ISSUES

The Current Discussion

Visual Analytics: Who Carries the Onus?
The Issue: Data visualization is an up-and-coming technology for businesses that want to deliver analytical results in a visual way, enabling analysts the ability to spot patterns more easily and business users to absorb the insight at a glance and better understand what questions to ask of the data. But does it make more sense to train everybody to handle the visualization mandate or bring on visualization expertise? Our experts are divided on the question.
The Speakers: Hyoun Park, Principal Analyst, Nucleus Research; Jonathan Schwabish, US Economist & Data Visualizer
MORE POINT/COUNTERPOINT BLOGS
About Us  |  Contact Us  |  Help  |  Register  |  Twitter  |  Facebook  |  RSS


Noreen Seebacher
Nate Silver Unplugged

5|23|13   |   1:37   |   (2) comments


Celebrity statistician Nate Silver shares some thoughts after delivering a keynote address at the SAS Government Leadership Summit in Washington, D.C.
Beth Schultz
Marketing Your Analytics

5|14|13   |   2:21   |   (0) comments


Elizabeth Barth-Thacker, a BI and informatics technology manager at Humana, tells us how her team is creating data transparency and building engagement with the business – with the help of an internal collaboration portal called Humanalytics.
Pierre DeBois
Amazon & Analytics

5|7|13   |   3:04   |   (2) comments


With Redshift, Amazon has expanded into the world of business intelligence. Could web analytic solutions for e-commerce be next?
Noreen Seebacher
The High Price of a Big Banana

5|6|13   |   2:53   |   (8) comments


There are no analytics to explain the volatility of banana prices in New York City.
Beth Schultz
Fraud Failure

5|3|13   |   2:26   |   (2) comments


Insurance companies have no excuse not to be using advanced analytics in their fight against fraud.
Beth Schultz
Teaching Users to 'Fish'

5|1|13   |   2:04   |   (2) comments


Speaking at SAS Global Forum Executive Conference, Rajeev Kaul, SVP of pricing at OfficeMax, uses a Chinese proverb to explain one of the reasons he's deploying SAS Visual Analytics.
Noreen Seebacher
Stuck on the Train

4|24|13   |   2:22   |   (11) comments


Cutting the number of cars on my commuter train was an analytics fail, simple as that.
Beth Schultz
Strength in Numbers

4|22|13   |   1:32   |   (1) comment


Hear, hear! to the folks who count themselves among analytics professionals and who will be gathering next week at SAS Global Forum.
Noreen Seebacher
Fool's Gold

4|15|13   |   1:50   |   (3) comments


You don't always find what you want when you data-mine.
Beth Schultz
Ford Revs Up With Big-Data

4|12|13   |   2:44   |   (2) comments


In an All Analytics interview, Mike Cavaretta, technical leader, predictive analytics at Ford Research & Advanced Engineering, shares how big-data is fueling vehicle decisions.
Beth Schultz
Get On With It!

4|11|13   |   2:32   |   (1) comment


Analytics professionals and SAS executives share how organizations can get on with their work so much faster when working in a high-performance and visual analytics environment.
Beth Schultz
Power to the Visualization

4|11|13   |   2:03   |   (1) comment


Analytics professionals who attended SAS's recent Executive Briefing in New York share how they think visual analytics might help their organizations get better value from data.
Beth Schultz
Mental Model Gives Boeing Lift

4|9|13   |   2:01   |   (2) comments


At Boeing, effective decision making comes down to this simple formula: QxA=E, as executive Jerry Allyne explained at the recent INFORMS analytics conference.
Beth Schultz
What Users Want Next

4|8|13   |   2:31   |   (4) comments


Whether working in major league sports, financial services, or healthcare, analytics, and data, professionals are checking out how visual analytics and high-performance technologies can help them optimize their environments, shrink their cycle times, and improve decision making, as attendees at the recent SAS Executive Briefing in New York share with us.
Beth Schultz
The Power to Discover

4|4|13   |   3:36   |   (1) comment


SAS CEO Jim Goodnight speaks with us at a recent SAS Executive Briefing about getting a feel for what's in your big-data and other new realities powered by advanced analytics.
Videos
Visual Analytics, Instant Insight

5|16|13   |   2:06   |   (1) comment


Dynamic data visualizations let analysts and business users interact with the data, changing variables or drilling down into data points, and see results in a flash. Advance your use of data visualization with tools that support features like auto-charting, explanatory pop-ups, and mobile sharing.
Videos
Big Data, Fast Infrastructure

2|14|12   |   3:35   |   (6) comments


No doubt your enterprise is amassing loads of data for fact-based decision-making. Hand in hand with all that data comes big computational requirements. Can traditional IT infrastructure handle the increasing number and complexity of your analytical work? Probably not, which is why you need a backend rethink. Big data calls for a high-performance analytics infrastructure, as Fern Halper, a partner at the IT consulting and research firm, Hurwitz & Associates, discusses here.
Videos
Red Hot Analytics

1|10|12   |   3:51   |   (3) comments


Redbox's bright-red DVD kiosks are all but ubiquitous these days, located in more than 28,000 spots across the country. Jayson Tipp, Redbox VP of Analytics and CRM, provides an insider's look at how the company has accomplished its phenomenal nine-year growth.
Videos
Hotelier Checks In With Analytics

12|14|11   |   06:55   |   (11) comments


InterContinental Hotels Group (IHG), a seven-brand global hotelier, has woven analytics into the fabric of its operations. David Schmitt, director of performance strategy and planning, shares IHG's analytics story and his lessons learned.