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Gannett Paper Exposes Gun Owners, Hides Hacks

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BethSchultz
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So bizarre
BethSchultz   3/8/2013 10:08:11 AM
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Hi Noreen. This is one of the oddest stories I've read in a long time! It almost seems as if you received the email about the breach because you'd written about Gannett. Did you get that sense? Or do you think the timing was pure coincidence?

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Re: So bizarre
PredictableChaos   3/8/2013 2:40:27 PM
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Bizarre is a good word for it.

Why wouldn't they notify people who's data has been compromised? Since they have the email list, just sending a prompt email would be the bare minimum.  Publishing an article wouldn't hurt.  They really didn't do so? 

I'm curious to see how they respond to your questions.

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Re: So bizarre
BethSchultz   3/8/2013 3:02:03 PM
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I'm really curious, too. Data privacy isn't something to toy around with. In fact, most states have data breach laws in effect that mandate notification when a breach involves personally identifiable information, don't they?

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Re: So bizarre
PredictableChaos   3/8/2013 3:38:58 PM
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Yes, there are notification laws, which vary by state.  The NY state law is AB4254 which was signed in 2005, so this isn't a new issue.

And with data for 10,000 accounts hacked, this breach is a big deal.

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Re: So bizarre
BethSchultz   3/8/2013 3:46:27 PM
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You have to wonder why Economic Guardian isn't going to authorities, then, rather than to the "victims." Something doesn't smell right about this whole thing!

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Re: So bizarre
SethBreedlove   3/8/2013 5:35:20 PM
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@ Noreen, if I'm understanding things correctly, I think a possible reason why the Gannett paper didn't notify anyone, if this did occur, was the paper had already broadcast the information to the world, that the hackers did.  Though one did it legally and the other didn't. 

 

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Re: So bizarre
Noreen Seebacher   3/8/2013 8:33:23 PM
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No Seth - that is not it. The hackers exposed login info for the papers website. The paper published the names of gun permit owners.

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Re: So bizarre
rbaz   3/8/2013 9:14:25 PM
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The only possible explanation I can come up with is that the newspaper was caught without a plan in place to deal with such a case and ignored it hoping it would pass unnoticed. Inaction usually is this is a result of lacking direction. Not too good in this case.

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Re: So bizarre
SethBreedlove   3/9/2013 6:02:10 AM
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Thanks Noreen. 

While Gannett may have the power to suppress the media, I am a little surprised some other news source didn't broadcast.  Or maybe they have a mutual understanding that one won't report the other. 

I'm wondering what the law says about disclosure on this issue, since this is not a financial institution. 

When I register to comment on a news site, sometimes I use a mock address such as 111 Street St. City, CA USA to prevent junk mail and such. Though rarely I do that because if it is a heated issue, I doubt anyone reads all 300 prior comments, before making a comment of their own. 

 

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Re: So bizarre
Broadway   3/10/2013 6:53:07 PM
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@Seth, I wouldn't think there'd be anything holding back other media companies from spreading this bad news far and wide about a competitor. Media companies after all have earned nicknames like muckrakers and yellow press, etc.

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Re: So bizarre
Noreen Seebacher   3/11/2013 7:37:57 AM
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I'm sure most companies have no qualms sharing bad news about their competitors, especially in such a tough media marketing atmosphere

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Re: So bizarre
Broadway   3/11/2013 11:32:31 PM
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@Noreen, case in point. Check out how other media outlets have been reporting the spin-off of Time Inc. There is downright giddiness in it. Daniel Gross' smirky countenance in his headshot does not help either.

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Re: So bizarre
Noreen Seebacher   3/12/2013 7:38:12 AM
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You're right - good points

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New York Hack victims
Noreen Seebacher   3/10/2013 9:09:15 AM
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Has anyone in the NY area looked up their names on the database? How do you feel about the theft of your personal information - and more importantly, the newspaper's failure to contact you?

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Re: New York Hack victims
Noreen Seebacher   3/10/2013 9:12:52 AM
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Noreen Seebacher   3/10/2013 9:15:31 AM
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JOURNALISM: Gannett Paper Exposes Gun Owners, Hides Hacks. "To be blunt, we have no idea why the Journal News has not notified you. . . . They have left you in jeopardy for over two months."

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Re: New York Hack victims
Noreen Seebacher   3/10/2013 9:16:55 AM
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How are victims of this hack planning to respond?

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Re: New York Hack victims
Noreen Seebacher   3/10/2013 9:17:48 AM
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If you want me to check for your name in the database, I will try to do so -- as long as I don't get too many requests.

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Re: New York Hack victims
Alexis   3/10/2013 2:52:03 PM
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This is really an odd and disturbing story. I realize that no financial data was exposed - or so it seems. But the victims still should have been notified.

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cyril   3/10/2013 5:09:13 PM
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I agree. Think companies have an obligation to disclose any unauthorized access to data.

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Re: New York Hack victims
kq4ym   3/11/2013 8:21:31 AM
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It seems pretty mysterious and maybe that's wny the paper hasn't yet notified anyone pending trying to figure out just what happened. Maybe the "hacker" got an old employee to provide a list? Maybe it wasn't really a hack but just some social engineering. Who knows at this point, but curious nonetheless.

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Re: New York Hack victims
Noreen Seebacher   3/11/2013 9:40:13 AM
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I spoke to some people at the paper over the weekend. We will post a video followup very soon. That should explain some of the issues.

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Re: New York Hack victims
Alexis   3/11/2013 9:51:44 AM
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Very eager to hear that response!

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