Matthew North

Does BCS Stand for 'Biased Cranial Stupidity'?

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mnorth
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Re: Stupidity is a matter of perspective
mnorth   12/8/2012 10:21:56 PM
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I feel the same way about naming rights on professional sports venues. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2603052  Is that really worth it?  I have to say no.  Even if the analysis say it's worth it, I have to question it.  But I suppose nobody wants to lose money for ever.  If the bowls end up not being worth money in long run, they'll shut them down.  But with universities having to guarantee a certain number of ticket sales in order to accept an invite, that probably won't happen any time soon.  The whole system is rigged.

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Broadway   12/8/2012 11:12:14 AM
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@mnorth, you're right. As long as some corporation is willing to sponsor these craptastic bowls, then they will be held. My question is: Why would any company want their name associated with these junk games? No one cares to even attend, and the ratings can't all be that good. Seems like a big wasted marketing budget to me!

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mnorth   12/7/2012 10:43:03 PM
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@Broadway: you raise a good point.  Last year, I decided that I was going to watch every single bowl game.  I wasn't able to watch each one in its entirety, but DVR is a wonderful thing and made it possible for me to watch a significant portion of every game without wasting a lot of time on commercials, talking heads, or even delays between plays.  You might think that is an indication that I'm slightly disturbed, and you'd probably be right. ;-)

Especially with the early bowl games -- the R+L Carriers Bowl, Gildan New Mexico, Beef O'Brady's, etc., I was amazed at the seas of empty seats I could see in the stadiums.  Even in the later bowls where more fans turned out for the games, it bothered me that because both teams entered the game with 6-6 records, one would end their season with a losing record.  In the case of UCLA last year, they had to get an exception just to get into a bowl, only to end up losing and finishing 6-8 -- ridiculous.  Georgia Tech could suffer the same fate this year.

But it comes back to the money -- if there are sponsors for the games, ad spots to be sold, and yes, wagers to be made in Vegas, then the game(s) must go on!

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Broadway   12/7/2012 10:30:40 PM
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What amazes me about the whole bowl process is that there are so many of them. It's to the point now where teams that are nearly 500 teams are able to make it to a game, and a sponsor is willing to put their name on the game. Yet who is watching those games? No one. It's all for the betters and Vegas.

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mnorth   12/7/2012 3:34:26 PM
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@Callmebob:  Excellent article.  The dollar figures are nothing short of mind-boggling, but I suppose those in the business know what they can sell the games for.  With those kinds of dollars flying around, one of my favorite BCS critics, Pat Forde, will have plenty of fodder for years to come.

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Stupidity is a matter of perspective
Callmebob   12/7/2012 1:35:35 PM
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Ah, yes we are now entering the annual BCS is idiotic season. Setting analytics aside and arranging the Bowel Game teams according to some convoluted and mysterious algorithmic selection process. The underlying reason is the BCS governing body and its members have a vested interest it keeping things the way they are. And what might that interest be? Perhaps the ultimate sports authority, ESPN, can give us some clue.

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Re: How 'bout that Orange Bowl match-up?
mnorth   12/6/2012 11:26:38 AM
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GREAT video Beth.  I think it underscores my main points very well.  A couple of quotes from the video that I liked:

"I can't even believe we're having this discussion."

My reaction: Why not?  It's been this way every year since BYU's national championship upset the apple cart way back in '84.  You use a broken system, you end up with broken match ups!

"They (meaning NIU) went from 23rd to 12th in one of the computer rankings."

If that's not a red flag for a broken data model then I'm not sure what is.  And yet very rich, very powerful individuals have been relying on these very models for years now, and even defending them!  

The new "playoff" system coming in 2014 will not solve this year's dilemma.  It will still use polls and computer models (and the analytics behind them) to determine the *four* teams that make the playoffs.  Right off the top of his head, Herbstriet named four teams that he thought were deserving of playoff spots (aside from Alabama and Notre Dame that already have the two tops spots this year), so at least two of those in future years will still be left crying foul!

Most sane sports writers have called for a 16 team playoff, and with that, you'd probably be fine this year.  NIU would get in at #16, and would probably end up eliminated in their first or second game, but at least it would be settled on the field.  Until the powers that be admit that, the fun will continue.

I for one am glad to see NIU in the Orange bowl, and will offer hope for the Huskies despite long odds against Florida State.  I love the t-shirt.

 

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BethSchultz   12/6/2012 9:50:55 AM
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Matt, BCS's screwy analytics does make for some fun apparel, like this t-shirt from Smack Apparel, which refers to ESPN analyst who took issue with NIU's Orange Bowl berth (see my other comment for him on video): Smart Apparel Huskie Pride T-Shirt

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How 'bout that Orange Bowl match-up?
BethSchultz   12/6/2012 9:42:40 AM
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Matt, there's certainly a lot of BCS bashing around this year's Orange Bowl, in which the NIU Huskies (huh?!) will play against Florida State. Being from Illinois myself, I know NIU stands for Northern Illinois University -- but lots outside the state probably find this a real head scratcher. I know many sports analysts sure do; just listen to ESPN commentary (starting at about the 1:15 mark in the video below). But let's let the Huskies have their pride -- it's the first team form the Mid-American Conference to earn a spot in a prestigious bowl game. The analytics may be faulty, true enough, but the players themselves had nothing to do with that! 

 



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