James M. Connolly

Data Science for All: When, Not If?

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Lyndon_Henry
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Hegemony of the Technocrati
Lyndon_Henry   4/24/2016 12:17:51 AM
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Jim writes

Sorry, but the time is approaching when the business user doesn't ask for access to their own analytics but demands that access. The saying, it's not a matter of "if" but "when" certainly applies.

So, I think the better question for the All Analytics community is "how" you enable citizen science. Do you do what MIS/IT did back in the early PC days and say, "No, no, never"? The risk there is that departments will circumvent you and your barricades.


 

I think the Technocrati will always try to stay at least one step ahead of the ordinary citizens. If ordinary citizens do gain the power and savvy to attain access to big data and perform their own analytics, the Technocrati will make all this moot by replacing the citizens with robots. They're already working on it...

 

 

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Re: The delusion of mass science
dbdebunker   4/15/2016 12:13:11 PM
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The emphasis in my comments is on SCIENCE and not on FOR ALL.

Anybody can "look at" or "play with" data. But very few and steeply decreasingly so can do science or even know what that means.

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Re: The delusion of mass science
kq4ym   4/15/2016 11:49:17 AM
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I suspect that the idea of data science for all might be a reach, even though I agree that data should be available to all. There's probably still going to be a certain personality type that is not only eager to look at data, but to make intelligent use of it. Call them "geeks" or inquisitive personalities, there's something unique about the brain that loves numbers, questions, getting to answers, and discovery.

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Re: Oh, helps us Lord
dbdebunker   4/13/2016 4:20:48 PM
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Exactly: There is no relationship.

PredictableChaos
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Re: Oh, helps us Lord
PredictableChaos   4/13/2016 3:32:12 PM
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Explaining how "ownership" will induce scientific knowledge is a difficult explanation to make.

It may require more 'suspension of disbelief' than you or I can muster.

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The delusion of mass science
dbdebunker   4/13/2016 3:22:30 PM
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In the context of people increasingly unwilling and unable to learn and think and delude themselves that machines will do it for them, the notion that they will be able to even interpret results, let alone do the analysis correctly is absurd.

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Re: Oh, helps us Lord
dbdebunker   4/13/2016 3:18:48 PM
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Can you explain how "ownership" induces science knowledge and comptence?

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Re: Oh, helps us Lord
PredictableChaos   4/13/2016 1:25:53 PM
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@debunker

Just think how much more ownership the business will have for the result, if they have a big role in coming up with it. With more ownership, they will be more likely to carry out the recommendations.

Now, does it matter that the popular prescription is also wrong? That you and I would prefer a conclusion that, while it may not be as popular, was actually correct?

No, this doesn't matter. After the project completion, if it should fail; the leaders can still blame us and everything will carry on as before.

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Re: Oh, helps us Lord
dbdebunker   4/13/2016 12:41:42 PM
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Science is not about democracy, but about knowledge and competence.

There is ample evidence that both are going down the drain, so that today even academics and the so-called "data scientists" are clueless about science. Let the machines--built by the greedy for exploitation--do the thinking an learning.

And in this context we're talking about "science by the masses"? PLEASE! It's just propaganda to give those masses the illusion of democracy and to obscure the what is really being done to them.

 

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Re: Oh, helps us Lord
rbaz   4/13/2016 12:12:28 PM
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May I dare say, evolutionary progression of data. It's good and healthy, should be encouraged not suppressed.

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