James M. Connolly

Data Pros Move to the Front of the Payroll Line

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kq4ym
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Re: Increasing salaries for data and security
kq4ym   9/9/2016 11:04:31 AM
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Yep, I would say having tho competitive bid and maybe an issue of time's running out, might be the most useful negotiation tools. The boss probably already knows what the competitition is doing and won't be swayed by salary surveys most likely.

Jamescon
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Jamescon   9/1/2016 1:32:27 PM
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@Seth. Robert Half does have breakdowns available on a regional basis (maybe even city level). There's a tool on their site that lets you look at your role, location, etc. Of course, any numbers like I cited in the article are nothing more than averages, which means there are always people above and below those lines. It's funny how in this time when data and analysis get so much attention we tend to fall back on the same approaches (averages) that we have relied upon for decades.

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magneticnorth0   8/31/2016 11:59:34 PM
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@PredictableChaos I know people who've done that, and they weren't data scientists. They just brought one thing to the negotiation: a better offer from another company. That's really all it takes.

SethBreedlove
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SethBreedlove   8/31/2016 11:44:59 PM
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@ rbaz,  I'm one of the lucky ones also.   Being self-employed I have several streams of revenue and I was blessed by San Francisco standars a great apartment with low rent. 

My friend lived in Oakland by 12th st with a very large two bedroom condo.  The management company gave her two options at the end of the lease.  Sign a new lease and only pay $4500 per month or go month to month for only $8000 a month/$96,000 a year.  

So if you are living in an area similiar to San Francisco, workers are paying a high price to live for these high income jobs.  The end result is that the only winners are the landlords because that is where all the money goes.   The benefit of living in San Francisco is that high income will increase your social security checks.  And it reallly is a great city.   But unless you are one of the lucky ones, $100,000 will keep the llights on and that's it. 

 

rbaz
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rbaz   8/31/2016 11:11:28 PM
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Maryam, loyalty is a two way street. I've known people that worked at HP and IBM for their entire career. But that was in days gone by, when the HP way breathe loyalty and IBM had a no layoff policy. The atmosphere has soured and has become almost adversarial.

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impactnow   8/31/2016 10:55:33 PM
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rbaz that seems to be the story in many hot areas. I had a friend tell me that they were openly looking for more seasoned employees to fill roles because younger employees were constantly job hoping and lacked any loyalty to the company. It was causing business disruption and soaring HR costs.

rbaz
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rbaz   8/31/2016 10:49:25 PM
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Seth, I hear you about san Francisco's cost of living. I am in the south Bay area, better known as silicon Valley and the work culture here is constant job hopping, long hours and dreadful commutes to just keep up. Salaries are good but mostly contracts basis. I consider myself extremely lucky having been established here for a long time.

SethBreedlove
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SethBreedlove   8/31/2016 10:47:44 PM
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I'm working with one financial company in S.F., a very nice company and great benefits I'm told and 80% of the workforce has been there less than two years.  While the company is expanding and growing a lot (not everyone has their own desk), it seems these pay increases come from changing jobs rather than yearly pay increases. 

 

 

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louisw900   8/31/2016 10:26:43 PM
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Nice to see Front-End Web Development in demand, especially since  I am expending energy in this direction. 

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Re: Increasing salaries for data and security
louisw900   8/31/2016 10:24:32 PM
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Great advice PC, and I might add that 'other Data' you take with you might best be in the form of another job offer.

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