James M. Connolly

IoT: Pioneering New Technologies

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magneticnorth0
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Re: IoT and security
magneticnorth0   11/30/2016 2:00:43 AM
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@SaneIT that makes me think psychologists and sociologists would want to surf webcams for research purposes...

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magneticnorth0   11/30/2016 1:53:55 AM
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@Maryam I don't have experience with a Smart TV myself, but the people I know who have them say theirs run Android. Would securing them be any different than securing any other Android device, then? Or are there other OSes that are more widely used?

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magneticnorth0   11/30/2016 1:44:40 AM
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I'd think a good number of open webcams are used as baby monitors. If so, would watching them be the live equivalent of watching cute baby videos on YouTube?

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Lyndon_Henry   11/24/2016 5:15:19 AM
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..

Jim writes that ...

... baked in security would add to costs in a consumer device market with thin margins. However, as Greg Reber discussed last week in an A2 Academy session, the cost justification for this type of security has to be in the cost of not doing it.

So, the manufacturers might have to raise their prices a bit and compete better on their "security message". Sell on the basis that they are more secure than the cheap competitors.



 

I'd question just how effectively security in this sense could be marketed, especially if the "non-secure" alternatives are priced considerably lower. Ah ... I think I can take my chances with the risk, as long as I can afford this shiny new toy ...

Which brings me back to my earlier contention that it would take governmental mandates to ensure that "baked-in" security. Maybe starting 8 years and 2 months from now? I'm not holding my breath ...

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Broadway0474   11/23/2016 10:58:50 AM
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I'll have to watch the documentary and form my own opinion. I often confuse Snowden and Assange in my mind, and I think they are two separate cats with two separate motivations, with the one closer to the Joker in the last Batman series.

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T Sweeney   11/19/2016 4:01:15 PM
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Thanks for asking, Broadway... I was impressed by Snowden as an intelligent, grounded guy. This may have been the POV of the documentary, but there was nothing in the film that depicted him making it all about himself. In fact, he was gambling that other analysts concerned by governmental overreaches would follow suit with their own leaks. That obviously didn't happen.

Snowden didn't come across as a grandstander or sociopath. There may be a pardon request to Obama, and my guess is it won't happen.

Others who saw "Citizen Four" may feel differently... I'd love to hear other reactions.

 

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Broadway0474   11/19/2016 4:13:31 AM
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@terry, this is a little off topic, but from you saw in the Snowden documentary, what do you think of him. Is he crazy? Can his level of paranoia be trusted?

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SaneIT   11/18/2016 1:20:21 PM
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Yes, security is expensive and on the consumer side it's not an easy thing to sell.  The average person has enough trouble setting up a wifi access point that they just let their cable company do it for them.  Some of the early adopters of IoT will manage to install smart light bulbs but won't even think about security because it's not their area of expertise.   I suspect that there will be some niche markets for installers and maintenance of these systems but it will be tiny for the next 5 years at a minimum. 

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Internet of Things - Awesome Tech
gauthammenon   11/18/2016 7:17:53 AM
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Internet of Things is a awesome technology and will be rulling world in coming days. IoT in short form, being part of all electronics in real world like cars, household things, weather stations, medical areas, satellites etc.

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Jamescon   11/17/2016 4:59:03 PM
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@Terry. Right, baked in security would add to costs in a consumer device market with thin margins. However, as Greg Reber discussed last week in an A2 Academy session, the cost justification for this type of security has to be in the cost of not doing it.

So, the manufacturers might have to raise their prices a bit and compete better on their "security message". Sell on the basis that they are more secure than the cheap competitors.

The cost of not doing so brings in several possibilities. If an unsecured webcame, thermostat, smart light bulb, or IP phone gets hacked and a consumer suffers damages (even as simple as embarrassment), the manufacturer is liable. Note, insurance companies can pretty quickly make a manufacturer or other company understand the cost of not meeting the insurer's standards.

An even great cost of not baking in security could come at the corporate-to-corporate level. Take the case of the Dyn DDOS attack. Initial reports say that Dyn was the victim of attacks carried out not only by consumer devices but networked gear in other corporate environments. The result was that Netflix and other Internet companies were taken offline, and even TV stations were largely knocked off the air (when cable companies couldn't pick up the TV feeds).

If all of those Dyn customers sued Dyn, then Dyn could turn on the manufacturers who sold unsecured devices. Even  if Dyn didn't win, as the saying goes, "The case will be in court for years." Then everyone is paying the lawyers.

If you are selling a $100 security camera and the added security steps add $10 to the price, maybe market it by saying that the $90 competitor provides the world with a free look at the kids' bedroom.

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