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Louis Watson
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Louis Watson   9/22/2013 2:12:32 AM
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@vincentg64    Some great points.  And I agree. You no longer need to get a degree to learn advanced statistics and I really think most recruiters are over rated. 

Some really great advice !  Thanks for passing on the wisdom.  

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Louis Watson   9/22/2013 2:09:10 AM
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That's really exciting news Noreen, we here at A2 know there are many opportunities out there for those with newly minted Analytics based Master's but I guess there are still doubters out there ?

Louis Watson
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Louis Watson   9/22/2013 2:06:17 AM
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I really have to agree with the premise that the MBA has lost it's luster, and I would not waste time on it now.  There was a time I had strongly considered it, but that time is long gone.

I would not advise those coming out of school today to waste time on it either.

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BethSchultz   9/16/2013 9:34:53 AM
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NC State, which has one of the oldest advanced analytics degree programs in the country (entering its 7th year), has impressive employment statistics to share, as well. In 2013, 96% of the 81 students graduating had job offers in hand, with 93% placed at jobs by graduation day. Students had an average of 15 initial interviews each, with 136 employers involved in the process. Average base salary offer was $95,700 or, for those with experience, $104,500. Students reported 232 job offers and, here's a stat I really like, 100% were in the US. 

 

 

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Noreen Seebacher   9/14/2013 11:08:09 AM
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The first official graduating class of LSU's Master of Science in Analytics (MSA) program is seeing some impressive job placement. Nearly all of the 16 students who graduated this spring received job offers before graduation and averaged two job offers per student. LSU offered a pilot program of 10 students in 2011-2012 and all of the students who were seeking jobs obtained employment in the analytics field within a few weeks of graduation.

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BethSchultz   9/13/2013 12:18:34 PM
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No doubt, these are all true at times.

Noreen Seebacher
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Noreen Seebacher   9/13/2013 9:48:00 AM
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With rare exceptions (surgeons) you don't need a degree to learn anything. But, unfortunately, you often need a degree to prove you know something -- because HR/recruiters are too lazy/busy to ask you to verify your proficiency in other ways.

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vincentg64   9/13/2013 2:06:57 AM
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You don't need to get a degree to learn advanced statistics or business management. indeed, university professors will teach you outdated material. Also, recruiters might not be the best way to find a job. Finally, applying for open positions might not be the best way to have a rewarding career and find happiness.

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BethSchultz   9/12/2013 10:33:24 AM
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@urbie4 -- I like that you were able to sign up for an MBA program for your own edification rather than with career pursuits in mind. I doubt many people have such luxury, especially given the cost of higher ed today. That's a pity. We could all benefit from expanding our thinking "just because" rather than always having to cost-justify the pursuit of knowledge!

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urbie4   9/12/2013 10:29:01 AM
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@Beth: Fair enough -- this trend is certainly not unique to the analytics biz, and it's one of my standard pet peeves... I did listen to most of your interview with Jacque, and her view is pretty much in line with what's happening in other industries, e.g., software (I stack my resume with every buzzword that's even vaguely related to technical writing, because that seems to be the only way to get through the filters these days!).  As for the MBA, I didn't sign up with the idea that it would do much for my career -- oddly enough, I just like to know more about how organizations work, pick up some more economics, operations management, marketing, and stuff like that.  These days, you get hired based on specific skills, not big-picture stuff... no argument there!

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