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PredictableChaos
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Re: Data Science programs
PredictableChaos   1/31/2017 9:19:35 AM
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the real benefit to [an MBA] program wasn't necessarily the classes, but the chance to network with fellow students.

@Broadway - I wonder if the professor who said this ever thought about how much Networking an inventive student could do with $50K per year?

 

Broadway0474
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Re: Data Science programs
Broadway0474   1/30/2017 11:37:40 PM
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Ariella, no doubt we learn more on the job than at school. And leaves you to wonder what we can learn from professors at schools who never ever worked in the "real world." I recently heard a story from a student at an MBA program where a professor told her that the real benefit to program wasn;t necessarily his or anybody's classes, but the chance to network with fellow students.

Zimana
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Re: Data Science programs
Zimana   1/30/2017 12:23:38 PM
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Good idea, although the next question becomes how many people are in school and are they enough to make headway against the gap. I am thinking not in some instances.

Zimana
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Re: Data Science programs
Zimana   1/30/2017 12:21:39 PM
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I also worry about the cost of education, if the personal ROI from it is now out of balance.  Cuts would go a long way.

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Re: Data Science programs
kq4ym   1/7/2017 4:47:20 PM
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Lowering education fees and associated costs should go a long way toward alleviating the as mentioned "100,000-190,000 shortfall by 2020 and 2017, respectively." With the demand growing as employers wanting to shorten their costs in hiring qualified professionals, there would seem to be a real need to get more folks into the pipeline sooner rather than later.

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Re: Data Science programs
Zimana   1/5/2017 11:57:48 AM
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Mentors from outside industries would certainly be helpful - aids innovation for having perspective beyond the technical aspects of data science.

Ariella
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Re: Data Science programs
Ariella   1/1/2017 12:40:56 AM
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@Broadway the oral exams are a cake walk compared to the dissertation defense! I speak from experience. For regular careers, you have a type of oral exam at any interview in which you have to prove your technical knowledge on the spot.

Ariella
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Re: Data Science programs
Ariella   1/1/2017 12:38:41 AM
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@terry I currently have kids in college and do get into this discussion. One is inclined to just go on to graduate school straight, but I tell her that certain programs -- certainly for MBAs and the like -- want to see some relevant work experience and even assume that you'd be working while pursuing the degree. So I've been trying to direct her to pursue what she can in terms of internships to improve her chances going forward. I've also told her to speak to people in various fields, and some have pointed out that they have learned a lot more on the job than in school.

Ariella
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Re: Data Science programs
Ariella   1/1/2017 12:35:24 AM
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@rbaz yes, in fact, the only majors that lead directly to a career are accounting, computer science, engineering, and math -- for acutaries. Everything else is just considered a general degree that can perhaps preprare you for graduate study in the same field (i.e. economics, sociology, history, English, etc.) but not qualify you directly for a job. 

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Re: Data Science programs
Broadway0474   12/31/2016 5:49:33 PM
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Get these grad students in real world internships for a semester or two. Get them mentors with industry professionals and or professors with real world experience. Save the oral examinations for the Ph.D. Students.

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