- by louisw900, Blogger
- 7/31/2013 10:55:11 PM
@chapAnjou Thanks. You are oh so correct. Where were the controls ? If there were any, they certainly didn't work. The person responsible for these controls from the department on up should also be held accountable. Of course the buck stops with the President.
But that is a cop out, Snowden had people ( many I assume ) above him and they all dropped the ball as far as I am concerned.
Once Snowden is finished spilling his guts to Putin and he can come back and recieve more than the proverbial "slapp on the hand."
This one of the most serious offenses an individual can make in my opinion and Snowden should become the poster child for what happens to traitors. I wonder - Do traitors have rights after they are captured ? I am sure some group like the ACLU might argue they do.
Oh Democracy, you double-edged sword.
- 7/30/2013 1:23:52 PM
Great points and really something that is not being touched upon during the coverage of this fiasco. How does the government allow something like this to happen?There obviously has to be better systems in place so that this kind of incident doesn't happen again. How exactly the govt goes about making sure this doesn't happen again is another story entirely, but it certainly begins with giving this bum life in prison to send a message that you can't do something so brazen and get away with it.
- 7/30/2013 12:45:55 PM
"Maybe we will have a film about the Snowden story soon. But what else could be said that we don't know yet?"
That's a great question...I look forward to finding out once the movie is released haha
- 7/30/2013 12:44:46 PM
"Can we imagine the worse scenario where the innocent person will be tracked down and wrongfully accused due to the information collected by the government spying on them? Or the good citizen should not worry about the government spying on them?"
This is definitely a worse case scenario and it might be plausible to think this could happen. The government is supposedly doing this to go after foreign elements and they are ignoring citizens. However, what happens in the case of american citizens engaging in terrorist activities? How does the govt justify that kind of surveillance?
- 7/30/2013 12:39:47 PM
@Broadway, I think it matters quite a bit. On the one hand you have the government saying "hey, we need this info for xyz, do you mind handing it over?" and on the other hand you have the government saying: "We demand you give up your info now or face xyz".
If a company is going to be hit with fines/penalties for not complying with a court-ordered demand, I would say that's a more legit reason to comply than if there was no legal threat.
- by louisw900, Blogger
- 7/30/2013 12:44:59 AM
Almost missed this great topic, and I agree no matter what - Snowden is polarizing. I am not quite sure I would characterize him as a "computer whiz", but I do think the traitor moniker fits quite well.
I think most adults understand freedom does not come cheap. It is ugly ( not to say there is not a place for moral boundaries).
So the aim of Snowden was lost to ultimately being inconsequential. I am certain he has more information than his pay grade deserved but that speaks to who is ultimately responsible for this - the government itself.
- by Hospice_Houngbo, Prospector
- 7/29/2013 8:21:55 PM
Can we imagine the worse scenario where the innocent person will be tracked down and wrongfully accused due to the information collected by the government spying on them? Or the good citizen should not worry about the government spying on them?
- by Broadway0474, Blogger
- 7/29/2013 2:48:27 PM
I don't think it matters if the corporations have up their customers data willingly or got a court order to do so. If the latter they should have fought it and made it public.