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Thsi was a great opportunity for me to present my thoughts and our program. Thanks everyone - agaian, the website for our program is: analytics.okstate.edu

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Goutam, thanks for the great presentation. And thanks to everyone for your comments and questions.

Editor

@MLMcAnnally: There may be some related data/info from the Oreilly data science salary survey.  You could take the 2016 survey to see what type of data they are collecting.

Prospector

If you search for Jer Thorp, you will find he was a data artist for NY Times R&D Group

Prospector

I know Goutam is tight in terms of his schedule. Any additional questions for him?

Editor

@Joe, well, they didn't call it intuition but creativity, rather like Einstein's promotion of imagination in thinking through theories.

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@Joe I wouldn't put it past some places.

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@Ariella: I feel like calling it "data artist" would only further bolster the ideas analytics doubters have about the objective power of data -- and that relying on data and analytics is no better than their own intuition.

Blogger

@Ariella: lol good question  #musthave6yearsexperienceinWindows10

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@Lyndon_Henry a few years back some suggested different names like "data artist."

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@Joe are they fillable at all, meaning do such people exist, or are they demanding a combination of skills not to be found in a single person? 

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I've read statistics demonstrating that there are over 100,000 data science jobs in the greater Boston metro area that can't be filled.

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Jim writes

== I've started to notice fewer people using the term data scientist. But that is just anecdotal.==

I think part of the problem is that "data scientist" has acquired a kind of "Dr. Strangelove" reputation among much of the population.

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Right, there seems to be a shortage of follow ups on the McKinsey study, other than us journalists quoting it.

Editor

@MLMcAnnally: I'm not aware of any that aren't based on just a handful of self-selected survey responses. However, getting that kind of data is one of the reasons I created my placement tool/service: analystfinder dot com. 

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sorry about typos - i  am not a good typist

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@Joe find a cooperative fish seller, and you can test the hypothesis. 

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Going by Linekd in post - there seems to be a lot of posting out there for analytics and daat science profesionals. Last year at teh INFORMS analytics conference, someone form IBM and Linked In showed about 35,000+ open positions. beyond taht I do not know of other studeis. Any one wlsehas thsoughts on it?

 

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I feel like "Patagonia Toothfish" would sell better in my [more hipster] neck of the woods than "Chilean Sea Bass."

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Don't tell me that about Chilean sea bass. I love it.    I've started to notice fewer people using the term data scientist. But that is just anecdotal.

Editor

Analytics vs. Data science - oh Boy!

What's in aname - do you know chilean bass real name is Patagonia Toothfish! Sometimes it seems we ahve to come up with new name to make thinsg look sexy! IMHO the re is not much diffeernce (if any bewteen the two) - at its core both are trying to solve problesm with the best data/tool/technologies that they have. Perhaos daat scientists may need more deeper training on philosophy of scientific enquiry .

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Question for all:Other than the McKinsey white paper, are there data on employer demand and student outcomes? We would be interested in learning about demand by industry, geographical location, salary metrics, for entry level analytics jobs. 

Prospector

Goutam, here's a question that someone posed to me recently. i'd love your thoughts:   How do you differentiate between analytics and data science?

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Would you please point me to a cirriculum for a degree in Big Data / Data Analytics I am doug dot lauffer AT ccbc dot EDU 

Prospector

Thanks for the link, Goutam.

Blogger

Totally awesome.  Thank you Goutam.  Look forward to hopefully seeing you again at the next SAS global forum.

Prospector

We always learn a lot on the AA shows

Blogger

OSU web site for analytics is: analytics.okstate.edu

 

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Agreed.  Thanks Jim and Goutam!

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Great show! Thank you.

 

Prospector

I only recall one undergrad field trip and one grad one.

Blogger

Now that's dedication!

Blogger

Field trip for college students!

Blogger

@Joe there are different specialties for analytics, whether it's business, science, engineering, etc., so it's possible to come up from one of those disciplines

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This discussion has me curious about the data and analytics on the success of data science students with varying backgrounds (no business experience versus a couple of years of business experience, certain bachelor degrees versus other bachelor degrees, etc.)

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Very true, intellectual curiosity is something innate.

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The schools teach how to be an analyst. The workplace trains on the business and the latest toolset.

Prospector

A lot of colleges rely on adjuncts, though, for all subjects. Yes, it's good to have people in the field in the real world, but they also work cheaper with no benefits or paid time off.

Blogger

@Ariella: I think it's about learning the new tools, but general overriding concepts rarely change -- and it's important to understand the "old ways" before moving on to newer methods.

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But that really goes for everyone: we should always be learning new things and not just drawing on what we did 10 years back.

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Hi! Community College Beaver County, Pennsylvania, I am Professor Doug Lauffer CIS and Philosophy.

Prospector

Weird, a bunch of chat comments went poof and are reloading now.

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Q for Goutam: An 18-year-old tells you s/he is considering going into data science.  What do you ask or say to that young person to 1) determine if data science is a good field to him/her and/or 2) encourage and/or inspire that young person?

Blogger

Please, not the Power Point slides!

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Here in MA, MIT has programs like that where they accept applications from businesses and volunteer students for projects.

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There's no analytics without data. Companies need to share data with the "learning" community.

Prospector

Two from Best Buy 

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FYI. SAS Academyfor data science:   sas.com/en us /learn/academy-data-science.html

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There are three of us from A&M on the line

Prospector

tl;dl: The technology changes; the ability to think like an analyst doesn't.

Blogger

Oh, yes, a lot of people do just that, jumping on the analytics bandwagon without knowing how they would apply it to their own ends.

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I think the idea of not knowing what we're doing with our lives is not just limited to young people.

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Hello, My name is Mary Lea McAnally, Texas A&M faculty

Prospector

Great, no problems on the audio this time.

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Introduction: Tim Dye, faculty, Texas A&M University

 

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Welcome, Rich and colheckman.

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Introduction:  Rich Metters, faculty at Texas A&M University

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