- by kq4ym, Data Doctor
- 1/25/2016 4:17:25 PM
I'm sure in a court opposing attorneys could put a price on stolen data, but it would not be easy and you can be sure there's going to be experts on both sides who come up with vastly differing amounts. But, nonetheless, it should be a matter of fact that companies probably need to come up with some value because of the importance data can have to the bottom line and well as for gauging security needed to protect it.
- 1/19/2016 2:05:15 PM
@Broadway Your point about the playbook is strong - no argument there. I was not even aware of what the Patriots did, so as far as that is concerned I agree.
I was more focused on the stealing of signs. At least these can be changed relatively quickly once it is noticed that stealing is happening,
By contrast if someone hacks into your network and steals your data , you might not be aware of this for days, months or years.
The damage has been done. I guess my point is in the amount of containment that can be achieved when someone tries to steal data.
Stealing signs is easily noticed and can be adjusted for while the compromise of a network is much harder to determine and adjust to.
- 1/18/2016 11:32:46 PM
Louis, I don't think it's different, and I would be interested to hear why you think it is. Take what the Patriots did. They sent in employees in disguises into their competitors' locker rooms to steal playbooks! Heck, why not just have them crawl through the ceiling ductwork and pop out of the ceiling tiles?! The distinction between trespassing into physical spaces and trespassing in digital spaces eludes me.
- 1/15/2016 11:31:32 PM
The unsaid rule in sports is that there isn't any rules. Just like in war. Perhaps the only rule about cheating is: just don't get caught. That's the rule the Patriots violated, and that's the rule that the Cards broke. People act like they're surprised by these acts, but it's no different than stealing signals, stealing playbooks from other team's lockers, and anything else crazy pro teams do to win kids' games.
- 1/15/2016 11:11:38 PM
"..,It's sad to say that no data is safe and it's value isn't just what the owner uses it for but also whatever the hacker intends to use it for. "
@Seth Nice observation. I share your skepticism regarding the safeguards of our data. It has been proven over and over again that millions of records can be compromised in an instance.
I think I recently heard somewhere that Identity Insurance is now tax deductible - which if true, is purely an admission by the government and business sector that this battle has long since been lost.
Millions of identities are floating around in the black market. So one need not be surprised if their data is found in the wrong hands.
And I had not even considered the value the Hacker places in the data - Good point.
This question seems to be an organic one with no real conculsion.
- 1/15/2016 10:59:25 PM
@Seth I agree. This is a very complicated question and we are merely skimming the surface. I was think afterwards when did Sports become so complicated ?
Well, the game is as simple as it's always been - however what we are talking about is the business of sports - which of course is a world unto it's own.
So Yes, a team, a firm, a group, a panel ( whatever one wants to call it ) is necessary to do this question justice.
- by SethBreedlove, Data Doctor
- 1/15/2016 6:10:53 PM
I suppose we would need to hire a forensic economist firm to determine the true value of the data. It would go well beyond to simply winning or losing a game.
It's sad to say that no data is safe and it's value isn't just what the owner uses it for but also whatever the hacker intends to use it for.